Talk:Barbie

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Bibliography

Possible references for revision for ENG 390:

  • Man-Kong, Mary, and Random House. Barbie: Fashion Fairytale (Barbie). Random House Books for Young Readers, 2010.
  • House, Random, and Mary Man-Kong. Barbie: A Fairy Secret (Barbie). Random House Books for Young Readers, 2011.
  • Webster, Christy, and Random House. A Perfect Christmas. Random House Books for Young Readers, 2012
  • Kosara, Victoria. Barbie And The Fashion Fairytale. Scholastic Paperbacks, 2010.
  • Holder, Randi. Barbie A Rare Beauty. Krause Pubns Inc, 2011
  • Miller, Mona. Barbie, Girls On Blades. Golden Books, 2000.
  • Miller, Mona. Barbie Animal Snapshots, A Picture Scrapbook. 2001.
  • Corse, Nicole. Barbie: A Perfect Christmas. Scholastic Paperbacks, 2011.
  • Miller, Mona. Star For A Day. 2002.
  • McDonough, Zona Zeldis. The Barbie Chronicles, A Living Doll Turns 40. Touchstone, 1999.
  • Landolf, Diane Wright. Barbie, Thumbelina. Random House Books for Young Readers, 2010.
  • Richards, Barbara. Barbie.Com, Ballet Buddies. Golden Books, 2000.
  • Hoyas, Landislas. Klaus Barbie:Translated from French. London: W.H. Landon, 1985. 310. Print.
  • Richards, Barbara. Barbie.com, Kitt'ys Surprise. Random House Books for Young Readers, 2000
  • Man-Kong, Mary, and Carlotta Tormey. Barbie As The Island Princess. Golden Books, 2008.
  • Marco, Tosa. Four Decades of Barbie. New Yorh: H.N. Abrams, 1998. 152.
  • Beigbeder, Frederic. Barbie. New York: Universe, 1998. 79. Print.
  • Pugliano-Martin, Carol. Barbie, A Day At The Fair. Random House Books for Young Readers, 2005.
Jsollowa (talk) 23:54, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
I've converted the above to a bulleted list for ease of reading. Normally, we are not supposed to refactor other users's comments on talk pages, but I have not changed the contents nor ordering of your comment, but merely the presentation. There is no Template:Bibliography in this Wikipedia. What did you have in mind there? -- Donald Albury (talk) 00:39, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Formatting I went ahead and turned that into a second-level heading... -Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 04:16, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Remember that this assignment asked you to find scholarly, peer-reviewed sources. The bulk of these sources are books for children, which do not fall into that category. Please review en:Wikipedia:Verifiability and en:Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources for help. You can also watch the video linked under "Library Resources" on our Oncourse site about peer-reviewed sources. Awadewit (talk) 01:57, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Yeah. Some children's books may be appropriate sources for example for "X was presented as Y in Z book", but in general it shouldn't be presented as a reliable source. sonia 09:15, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for all the tidbits and bulleted list :)

Possible Revisions

To update this page I plan on including more history notes and listing different Barbie's throughout the decades. I would also like to remove the heading sexism, since I do not think it necessarily applies to the information following it. Pictures from the Children's Museum exhibit and of other Barbie dolls will also enhance the site. Jsollowa

A history section sounds like a good idea, but try to avoid a list of Barbies. What else are you planning to add? You will have to be careful about adding Barbie images because they are under copyright. We can only add one and claim fair use - we can show you how to do this. (Also, remember to sign your posts with four tildas (~~~~). Awadewit (talk)
Unfortunately, an image uploaded under fair use won't be possible on this wiki. Simple English Wikipedia does not allow images to be uploaded directly to this project. All images used on Simple English Wikipedia should come from "Wikimedia Commons". Goodvac (talk) 06:14, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Oh, thanks for clarifying that! Awadewit (talk) 22:51, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Self image (possible change)

In your self image are you speak of the "bad" and even though i agree with everything, there should probably be something in there about some good self image. For instance she has held 100 and some jobs, then talk about how this lets girls know they can do and be what they want to be. -I'll be looking for more to help you out (LRNJEOZ (talk) 00:03, 14 November 2011 (UTC))

Wouldn't that section be biased? If it was from an artical I believe you would be ok.Wake0421 (talk) 21:42, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Copy edits

The first thing i noticed is in your origins section: i would make "immigrants" a link because some people/children may not know what immigrants are, so make it to were they could click on it to find out what it is. Also the word "copyrighted" may need a link or at leasted explaind what that means. In the 1960's: explain what/who a first lady is.

Domesticated gender roles may not be understood in your spin off section. also i think there was a car that barbie had that you could add in this part.

Other than that I think your page is great, very informational and clear. I cant find anything else wrong, but i'll be glad to keep looking over it if you add more. (LRNJEOZ (talk) 00:35, 22 November 2011 (UTC))

Suggestions for improvement from Awadewit

Here are some suggestions for improvement:

  • The "Origins" section needs to be written as a more coherent narrative. Give some more background on Handler, for example. Also, paragraphs should be more than one sentence long and all quotes should be attributed in the text.
  • Remember that you need to give citations for the information you are adding. Many of the sections have no citations - be sure to add them.
  • Many of your paragraphs are long lists of facts - try to make them little stories instead. It will make them easier to read.
  • Be sure to make it clear when you are writing that Barbie is just a doll. At times, the writing sounds as if she is a person.
  • The "lead" or beginning section of the article needs to be a summary of the article.

This is a good start! Awadewit (talk) 01:11, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

References

I still have not perfected the art of referencing. Some books are listed twice in the bibliography section. Does it list them every time I use the book as a reference? If that's the case I'll end up with 20+ repeats.

There's a way to fix that. I'll fix it, then you can use what I do as an example. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:07, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
OK, it's fixed. If you have questions, leave a note on my talk page. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:10, 4 December 2011 (UTC)