User talk:Tree Biting Conspiracy


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Barnstars and so on are regarded as pretty much useless over here. If we grow, and have all the core articles sorted, then maybe. Also, would you mind changing your signature? The image isn't visible over here and I can't read any of the links in Mozilla. Archer7 17:15, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Loofah is more common according to google

[1] vs [2], and "luffa" isn't recognized by a UK dictionary at all[3] (and is just a variant according to a US dictionary[4]). I think it should be at loofah. Freshstart 22:18, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I've lived all my 45 years in the US and had never seen it spelled "luffa" until I saw you move it. Scanning the initial hits for luffa, it appears that that spelling is more common in scientific circles (which makes sense since that is the Latin/scientific name for the Genus), but loofah more common in the everyday vernacular (probably not really so much of an AE/BE issue). As for EN, I've sometimes seen an elitist streak there, which might explain why they seem to be using the scholar's spelling instead of the common people's. Freshstart 23:15, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I haven't really changed my mind, but won't lose any sleep over it either way. I need to get back to work. Freshstart 03:40, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


Would you mind taking a look at my WikiReader proposal on Wikipedia:Simple talk? I think it could be a fantastic way to go for the Simple English encyclopedia. Archer7 16:11, 1 May 2006 (UTC)


Why do you think I am a vandal? I have written many nice stories on here, and am trying very hard to write good stories. Please can you look at them for me. I was banned from the English Wikipedia, and it was supposed to stop today, but they have forgotten to unban me. I was not banned for vandalism. I was banned because I wanted to improve an article on the Port Arthur massacre and add references, when the article had no references before. I did not vandalise any article. I tried to make them good. 12:35, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Not a vandal? Then why were you banned from the English Wikipedia?--TBCΦtalk? 08:18, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


Actually, it's not that unsourced. Besides that it's well-known that indeed many tourists come for the red light district and the coffeeshops, it was also in the papers a few years ago that tourists gave it the nr.1 reason to be in Amsterdam.
Furthermore, Amsterdam has no dikes. The Netherlands does, nearby the sea, but Amsterdam isn't nearby the sea at all. 16:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for the barnstar, it's much appreciated! I just wish I could be around a bit more now. Archer7 - talk 18:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Here's the thing...

You're making an all-too-common mistake that many people make when they com from en: wikipedia. You feel like simple is missing some very critical templates, categories, and articles... and are just copying them here to help. I understand that desire. What you need to realize is that "Simple" does not just refer to the language. We choose to focus on core articles. We use a small set of templates and a very loose categorization. We are not another en: wikipedia. You will find that several things you've added are going to be deleted; and where you've intentionally created stubs, you'll be asked to merge the articles into more major areas. -- Netoholic @ 06:41, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Core articles are about what you'd learn in school during a typical education, or "one step removed". Simple will not be another index of video games. Merge the same information into one article. See Sega for example. -- Netoholic @ 06:55, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

IF you would like to redirect them to Lower Saxony, I am not opposed. Just do not intentionally leave dozens of stubs around. All that does is require more work from people in the future. Quaiity is emminently better than quantity here. -- Netoholic @ 07:01, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

RfD is for pages which require discussion. -- Netoholic @ 07:09, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Nothing about what I've said should make you feel like I think you did anything but act in good faith. CORE is not a policy, it is a philosophy, to keep Simple from drifting into complexity. -- Netoholic @ 07:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Meta:Foundation issues describes the core items wiki's need to follow. The "wiki process" as the final authority on content. Consensus, per se, is not mentioned. When someone comes out of nowhere and starts creating dozens of intentional stubs and complex templates, etc... I think the proper wiki process is to contact that party and reverse things to a more natural editing pace. -- Netoholic @ 07:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Replies to above comments(taken from Netoholic's talk page)

Deleting articles created out of good faith without any discussion or consensus whatsoever is a clear violation of Wikipedia's basic guidelines. Please remember that Wikipedia is a community-based project.--TBCΦtalk? 06:58, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Also, why did you delete all the district articles? Couldn't you have redirected them to Lower Saxony?--TBCΦtalk? 06:59, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Even so, you shouldn't be speedily deleting them without any discussion. If you personally feel they violated WP:CORE, you should have nominated it on WP:RfD instead.--TBCΦtalk? 07:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
BTW, speaking of RfD, could you please restore the recently deleted articles and then nominate them on RfD instead?--TBCΦtalk? 07:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
I urge you to stop speedy deleting articles immediately without discussion. As I've stated before, this is clearly violating Wikipedia's principle's on consensus and community.--TBCΦtalk? 07:10, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
WP:CORE is a very vague policy. It doesn't explain clearly how important a subject has to be to be considered a "core" article. Thus, due to this issue, discussion on WP:RfD is highly reccomended, especially since the above articles were obviously created out of good faith.--TBCΦtalk? 07:12, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
If you think what I did was in good faith and not vandalism, then why did you delete it without discussion? Please, for the love of god, restore the articles and nominate it on RfD so that the community can decide if applies to WP:CORE or not, like what a Wiki is meant to be.--TBCΦtalk? 07:18, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Are you trying to say that Wikipedia is not based on consensus? Then's what's the point of having pages such as RfA, RfD, or ESP? By "wiki process", the Foundation Issues page is clearly referring to the collaborative nature of wiki's. Also, why can't you just restore the articles and nominate them on RfD instead? If it really does fail the WP:CORE policy, then would it really matter either way? Cheers, --TBCΦtalk? 07:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the barnstar Ksbrown 18:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

List of Wikipedians

Blocking I was blocked on en., so I was using this as a sandbox. You'll see that I'm putting {{delete}} on these pages, too. Koavf 17:09, 30 September 2006 (UTC)


I think that welcome message was the most complex simple English I've ever read. ;) Anyway, thanks for the welcome. Cheers! BillG | Talk 12:40, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

your signature

Thank you for removing the smiley image from your signature, since that's a bad practice for many reasons and now shows up on dozens of pages. I think you can go further also by removing the font tags, just so that the page source is easy to read. -- Netoholic @ 20:50, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

TBC, thanks for the barnstar! I really appreciate it. :) Happy editing, Tangotango 16:35, 4 October 2006 (UTC)


Just wondering if there is such thing as "Good Articles" and "Featured Articles", like in the main English Wikipedia??? RaNdOm26 17:28, 4 October 2006 (UTC)


thanks for changing my article on Dora the Explorer so quickly Mcc 23:07, 4 October 2006 (UTC)


Dear TBC, you have been a great user here. Thank you for your great contributions. Keep them coming! -- Tdxiang @ 09:30, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Darn, txdiang, you beat me to it! I would like to thank you, TBC, for your tireless yearbox-ing and categorizing. Keep up the great work! PullToOpen Talk/Contribs 21:07, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Nah, it's okay... do you want me to double-barnstar TBC, PullToOpen?-- Tdxiang @ 11:16, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Miscellaneous templates?

On the template I made, Template:Clear, what do you mean by a Miscellaneous template? cuz I'm sort-of confused but I actually got this from Template:Clear. thanx. --§ Alastor Moody (T + C) 06:45, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Templates and trailing spaces

Hi TBC, thank you for categorizing all those templates :) I've noticed that in several instances you've inadvertently inserted a trailing line break while categorizing templates, meaning that they now leave a new line in articles where they're used. In some cases, this is not a problem; in other cases, they make the page look a bit ugly. When you categorize a template, please be sure to put the <noinclude> right after the last ending tag in the template; leave no spaces or new lines. For example, if a template ends with |}, do:

[[Category:Nice templates]]

instead of


[[Category:Nice templates]]

Thanks, and happy editing! - Tangotango (talk) 09:23, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Good articles?

Are there any very good articles around here that I could use as a model for writing good Simple English? Is there some sort of list or category that lists the best articles in Simple Wiki (a bit like featured articles in English Wiki)????? RaNdOm26 17:40, 8 October 2006 (UTC)


I'll have to agree with Alastor Moody and Archer7. Though you may be a bureaucrat, please don't act without consensus from the community or warn users who's edits were in good intention, as such is a breach of both Wikipedia's guidelines on civility and assuming good faith.--TBCΦtalk? 01:43, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

The fact that you had to interwiki link to those policies on EN should give you a clue. Those are not Simple English policies. They are good philosophies, and ones I am not disputing. Simple Wikipedia is not "another" EN wikipedia. The only rules we must follow are meta:Foundation issues. People come here exactly because they are tired of EN or other wikipedias. Tired of exhaustive processes and rules, tired of unproductive elements that forget what we are for. -- Netoholic @ 02:46, 14 October 2006 (UTC)


Hello, TBC. Please note that dates go like this:Numerals first, then the month. Thank you!-- Tdxiang 10:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Please note that it doesn't matter how dates are written, as their appearance can be automatically changed through "my preferences". See m:Help:Preferences#Date format for details.--TBCΦtalk? 10:14, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


Barnstar Congratulations: You have been given a Barnstar!

I, James Paul am very happy to give you this barnstar for your hard work. You are a blessing.--Sir James Paul 03:09, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Keep up the good work TBC.--Sir James Paul 03:09, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


Congratulations TBC, you are now an administrator! Remember to check your email regularly, and don't be afraid to ask another admin for help if you need it. Congratulations once again, Archer7 - talk 23:09, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

  • You deserve it, pal. All the best mopping while I am away, being desysopped! :)-- Tdxiang 10:01, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Email settings

Hello, TBC

it appears that you do not have a working E-mail this user link. As this is kindly requested as a pre-requisite for any new sysop to come, could you please check:

  • If you have entered a valid email in your own preferences
  • If you have confirmed the email
  • If you have checked the box Enable e-mail from other users

Thank you in advance, M7 01:58, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi TBC, sorry I assumed you'd already set this up (most admin candidates seem to have their email already confirmed). Receiving email is quite important for an admin, especially if you plan to block people. If you're having trouble sorting out your email, want to know more about what it'll be used for etc, drop me a note. Archer7 - talk 11:17, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
TBC, could you give me an update on this? If you're worried about privacy, you can easily set up an account with 'TBC' as the display name. Thanks, Archer7 - talk 14:17, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
It's not working. Could you check in your preferences if you've checked the box? Archer7 - talk 17:27, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Gaining Respect

Do you think that fighting vandalism will help me gain respect quickly in the community? Also what else should I do to gain respect?--Sir James Paul 21:17, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


Hi TBC, I've sent you an email a few days ago. Could you take a quick look and tell me what you think? Thanks, Archer7 - talk 13:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Beam (structure)

I have simplified now. If you think that is enough and the meaning did not change please take out "unsimple". --Cethegus 16:33, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to Esperanza!

Welcome, Tree Biting Conspiracy, to Esperanza! As you may know, all the members have one important goal, which is the success of this encyclopedia. To do this we want to make the community better, and be the nice side of Wikipedia.

If you have any questions, comments, or general ideas, use the Esperanza talk page! We thank you for joining Esperanza, and look forward to working with you in making Wikipedia a better place to work!

Jordanhatch 22:40, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Requests for comments/Blockinblox on Simple English Wikipedia

Hey, I'm closing the RfC at Meta and tranwiki'ing it over here. Is there any page you can direct me that I could post the contents from Meta discussion to? I saw Simple talk, but I wasn't sure if that was the best place. Thanks in advance! Nishkid64 21:09, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I decided to be bold and move the discussion to simple:Wikipedia:Simple talk#Statement of the dispute. Hopefully, that's the proper location. Nishkid64 22:27, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Selective restoration

I have done a selective restoration on your talk page to get rid of the link that was added by a vandal to your talk page. The link was to a website that had personal information of everybody's favorite KMcA on it. Cheers, PTO 23:22, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Welcome back

I wasn't around here when you were but I just wanted to say welcome back! Oysterguitarist 23:09, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back! · Tygrrr... 23:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Welcome back!! It's great to see a former administrator back on here! I just want to thank you for coming back! Enjoy editing here on the Simple English Wikipedia! Razorflame 15:50, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Welcome back!-- Lights  talk  03:13, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Welcome back! :) --§ Snake311 (I'm Not Okay!) 02:10, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

What does TBC stand for? The Brothers Chaps? They're the creators of Homestar Runner. --Jack Black 16:11, 3 March 2008 (UTC)


Hi, I'm glad I found you here too. At the English Wikipedia my nickname is Rosameliamartinez. I gave you a barnstar one year ago and you said,"thank you" last month LOL
I have five questions about the Simple English Wikipedia. (I hope you become my teacher and tell me how this Wikipedia works :)
1. How do I add the pictures of me that I have at the English Wikipedia to this Wikipedia?
2.How do I change the colors in my signature? (I think it does not work in the same way as in the English Wikipedia :( )
3. Are there barnstars and userboxes at the Simple English Wikipedia?
4. How do I change the color of my talk page? At the Englisg Wikipedia it is pink. I like pink. I want my talk page at the Simple English Wikipedia to be the same pink. Could you change my talk page's color to pink please?
5. Do you think my simple English is good simple English or bad simple English? (I think I sound like Tarzan LOL) Please respond in my talk page. Adiós Surfer Rosa (talk) 01:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


Barnstar Congratulations: You have been given a Barnstar!

I really felt like giving out a Barnstar, and I noticed you hadn't gotten any in the last, oh, just few years! Very good job lately (and welcome back). Cheers -- America †alk 05:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

You've never received a barnstar in two years? :O By the way, I've replied to your thank you on my talk page, as I always reply there. :) -- RyanCross (talk) 05:45, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
If you see above, it was 17 November 2006. You're welcome TBC. -- America †alk 05:51, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

My Request for Adminship

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My Request for Adminship</th></tr>

An edit summary of yours :P

Huh? :P -- Ryan†Cross (talk) 05:33, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Heh...that's what happens when you edit two Wiki's simultaneously. It's happened to me on Wiktionary as well. :) --TBC 05:36, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Heh, heh, I see. Don't get confused about Wikipedia and Wiktionary too much. ;) -- Ryan†Cross (talk) 05:50, 26 July 2008 (UTC)


If you're still on, can you rollback all of Script error: No such module "user".'s edits? Pure vandalism, but with only the undo function it will take way too long. Rollback is easier but I'm not an admin. I'll try to do it manually for now. Cassandra 06:00, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, AE is on it, and that was fast. Cassandra 06:17, 26 July 2008 (UTC)


My reply here. And you did change the wording of your offer. :P That's why my first reply sounded odd. :) -- Ryan†Cross (talk) 20:19, 26 July 2008 (UTC)


(paste-copied by oNaNcle from a closed CU request)

I offered to nominate RyanCross when he hits the three month mark after interacting with him and seeing how much he's contributed to the site. If it was in the proximity of another nomination (based off the above comments, I'm assuming Cassandra?), then it's totally coincidental. There is no cabal here. (or is there? :o)--TBC 08:52, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

I must apologize for such a confusion. Please admit the first contribution I've seen on that matter was you using a pseudo who had never contributed before. I hope you assume that I'm not stupid enough to believe an active admin could think a second in creating a sock puppet to nominate himself hoping to become a sysop he already is... ONaNcle (talk) 09:13, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
I see how you could have gotten confused. Due to a global account conflict with SUL, I sometimes accidentally edit with the account I use on the English wiki. Luckily, with a recent name change, the issue's been resolved.--TBC 09:20, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
w:All's_Well_That_Ends_Well then :) ONaNcle (talk)

Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2008/Movie Time Monday

I have no issue with that close, well done. :-) —Giggy 09:29, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey! I like the images on your pages! :) Chenzw  Talk  09:42, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Green Day

Hey there TBC. I was wondering if you could look over the Green Day article I'm trying to promote to WP:GA, and make some copyedits. I'm busy creating the red links on the article. You can help with the red links if you want. You can start from the bottom. :) So, can you help? Thanks in advance. -- Ryan†Cross (talk) 23:54, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Oh, and I wasn't planning for VGA yet, just GA. ;) I'm trying to create the redlinks now anyway. -- Ryan†Cross (talk) 00:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/SwirlBoy39 3

Heads up: [5]Giggy 08:43, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Neutral votes

The very basic problem with neutral votes is counting them. In theroy, they add a vote, but they do neither add a support nor an oppose vote. To avoid overcomplicated math we decided they were no neutral votes. If you do however think this is wrong, please bring it up on simple talk; other than that, WP:CFA has proven pretty successful.--Eptalon (talk) 08:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

You online?

You still online? If you are, please let me know at my talk page. Cheers, Razorflame 02:03, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Signature redirects

Just a note, but you might want to change the links in your signature, as they lead back to ye olde screenname :). Cheers, Razorflame 03:41, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me. I completely forgot about that.--TBC 04:16, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


A'ight. - A Link to the Past (talk) 02:59, 10 August 2008 (UTC)


What is your reason for this revert? If you have sources that say he is a student, add them. If you can find no sources that the person attended the school, add it in the edit summary or say it on the talk page. But by no means rollback with an automatic edit summary, not explaining anything. — Jonas Rand · (talk) 06:03, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

It was a redlink without sources added by an anon ip, so I assumed it was vandalism or a COI edit. I apologize, I should have double checked; bad force of habit from school entries on EN Wikipedia, I guess. --TBC 02:10, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. I noticed that Creol reverted you, and added a reference. — Jonas Rand · (talk) 02:16, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


I don't mind you making the phrasing more neutral, but I do mind you changing what the reference says. The rerferences do NOT say that "homeopathy is considered less effective", they say that they can delay people getting life-saving treatments, and that many homeopaths actively discourage patients away from basic preventative medicine such as vaccines.

Dilution and succussion - a serial dilution with shaking at each step - is at the core of homeopathy. If it sounds silly, that's their fault.

You get the idea. I don't mind it being edited, but Giggy by his own admission didn't check the sources and got a lot of things completely wrong. So don't presume that an NPOV version means mixing his inaccurate text in with things I took great care to make sure were concordant with the standard medical view on homeopathy.

And for god's sake, don't presume that because dilution and succussion sounds silly that it's not core to homeopathic beliefs. Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:33, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Admittedly, I did simplify a bit - it can also be diluted in alcohol, sugar, or the like. Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:37, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I'll admit, I don't know much about homeopathy. But the way it's worded is certainly POV. Also, I didn't add "the less effective" part. I was going to add that homeopathy is scientifically implausible, until I was edit conflict-ed.--TBC 05:35, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
And when did I say that "it's not core to homeopathic beliefs"? I haven't even touched the second and third paragraphs yet. ;) --TBC 05:40, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
It kept getting edited out, and didn't appear in giggy's version, which you used for that. Sorry, I got a bit annoyed because Giggy (in good faith) messed up a lot of things, and then people kept claiming NPOV to revert back to an inaccurate version.
I reverted it back, since a lot of the refs were removed. I apologize if some of your edits were removed in the process. I've cleaned much of it up; hopefully it's more NPOV now.--TBC 05:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Continuing from IRC...

This is exactly what I meant. It always happens. — AE (talk) 04:35, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletion summaries

Coudl you make sure that they're clear before deleting? The last thing we need is publicity about a deletion summary that said x SUCKS PENIS. Cassandra talk 00:57, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

<Edit conflict> :TBC, you shoudl Clean Delete Reasons (My settings < Gadgets < Administration), this is inappropriate. The Deletion log cannot be removed by us. Just a warning, it's dangerous. Thanks — AE (talk) 01:03, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Well, it gives non-admins (who can't view deleted edit histories) an idea of why the article was deleted. Especially if it's a non-obvious entry like Hydroelectric dam. Had the remark been an attack, I would have certainly cleared it. But the remark wasn't directed to any person in particular, so there's not much to worry about (unless of course, hydroelectric dams have emotions and lawyers). :) --TBC 01:07, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Just in case, please set the gadget on. If a non-admin want to know an article's content, they can ask an admin, they don't need to see part of it in the deletion log. Majorly talk 01:54, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


I basically "exported" the Basic English Dictionary to wiktionary and am adding spanish and italian definitions (and adding sanskrit and japanese later). I've a theory that languages are "the communication between minds using pointers (known as words), divided in sounds and structured in writting sytems". That means that to learn a new language we just need to add pointers (words) and learn the basic structure (which may include different writting systems).--Esteban.barahona (talk) 05:02, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

And thanks for the welcome back too! Haha, I hope I haven't become rusty though. Or I'll be bitten by a tree! Haha...-- Tdxiang 05:22, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


The e-mail I just sent you included my part of the thing (you know). I am going on vacation all weekend and won't be able to do it myself. But, to the community, I do approve it and wrote it myself. Thank you. -- American Eagle (talk) 03:16, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject:Video games

Hi, I have found your name on the project page User:A Link to the Past/WikiProject Video games. I have an interest in this topic myself and have done much work on wiki articles related to video games so I have added my name to the list and I have started a vote on Wikipedia:Simple talk to have the project approved and moved out to its proper place WP:Video games. I am announcing this to all members and asking you to come and vote your support if possible. G Luck ~ R.T.G 02:40, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Request for Deadminship

Just to let you know, in case you have notifications turned on, that you currently have a request for deadminship ongoing.

MC8 (b · t) 01:17, Sunday November 8 2009 (UTC)

Your sysop rights have been removed

Hi. As you have been inactive for one year, your sysop rights have been removed as necessitated by Wikipedia:Inactive administrators. If you choose to become active again, you may reapply for adminship via the standard procedure. –Juliancolton | Talk 05:52, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Quick deletion of Template:GiveCake

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Quick deletion of Template talk:Gift

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