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RyanCross (talk) 20:36, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Don't be a bad layout fixer upper!

Beautifully laid out, I'll take a leaf out your ever-growing book.




--Gwib -(talk)- 18:51, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Dearie me, you got it all wrong! It should be like this:






mc8 11:21, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
No way. This is how it goes.















The best!

The community

Mine was the best! StaticFalcon  Give me a SHOUT!  21:22, Saturday August 30 2008 (UTC)


Can you close my RfA please as it looks hopeless with 7 opposes and no supports. I might reapply in a few months though but not too soon. F S M 20:15, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I was busy. Better luck next time, and you've got some useful criticism to work with now. --Gwib -(talk)- 20:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Userbox template

Did Template:Userbox get migrated anywhere? mC8 15:38, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

According to the page's deleted history, it was moved to User:The Flying Spaghetti Monster/Userbox. I have no idea why. — AE (talk) 17:00, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
  1. Gwib deleted it as userbox templates are no longer allowed in mainspace. It appeared I was the only one who noticed the dissapearance so I asked him to move it to my userspace. F S M 17:02, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Just noticed the discussion about it is just a little bit up the page D: F S M 17:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
It's not a userbox, it's the code. It has hundreds of links to it. Unless said otherwise, I restoring it. It has messed up most of our user pages. — AE (talk) 17:13, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Sure. I'm not sure why he deleted it the first place to be honest. F S M 17:17, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Oi! I told you exactly why I deleted it, and FSM was perfectly correct. No userbox templates in the mainspace. By rule, I should delete it again, but since it seems it's gone unnoticed for so long, I suppose it could stay (although against regulations). --Gwib -(talk)- 17:54, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there somewhere this is written down as a rule? I don't think I every knew this was something that could not be done. -Djsasso (talk) 18:04, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Simple_talk/Archive_3#Wikipedia:Userboxes --Gwib -(talk)- 18:40, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


[1] - You state in that edit that "Any gas can condensate, but at very high or low temperatures". Everything I have read and learned about temperature, theromodynamic temperature, condensation, Gay-Lussac's law and phase changes screams out that you forgot the word "Pressure" after "very high". If you are sticking with your statement that high temperature can cause consensation a reference is needed. Even using Gay-Lussac's law in a confined area and increasing the temperature to increase the volume, the two would balance each other out and prevent condensation. -- Creol(talk) 07:09, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I think you got the wrong talk page, Creol. I haven't touched that article. --Gwib -(talk)- 08:51, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Indeed, it was FSM blaspheming against the words of wisdom of Gay-Lussac. --Gwib -(talk)- 08:55, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
//Checks link again - switches it to a diff link// Nope the revision definitely has your name on it with the summary "Complete rewrite". Third block down has you rewriting it to say "Condensation of water is when water turns from gas to a liquid or crystal shape. Any gas can condensate, but at very high or low temperatures." The link you provided is the reason I am looking in to this one. Him using a faulty page here to defend his case pointed out we need to fix that one or verify it. -- Creol(talk) 12:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Righto, FSM added a reference for gases condensing at high pressure. It says stuff condenses when "the vapour pressure of the material is increased." So I'm guessing from the reference that gas can condense at high temperatures, but only when pressure is also a variable. Or, to be exact, when the pressure of a gas at a high temperature is greater than the pressure of the liquid or solid form of that gas. I'll go fix the page.
Curiously enough, I wrote that almost exactly a year ago today. Who knew that age-old edits would come back to haunt you. --Gwib -(talk)- 14:58, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


I'm just tidying up Sex organs. It seems like a good article with just a few tweaks to the language needed to make it acceptable to one who has been a feminist since the 60s, etc.

Testicles needs its links fixed.

Some articles are overlinked. It seems pointless to have a separate article on clitoral hood which ought to be perfectly well covered under the article clitoris. Amandajm (talk) 07:36, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Well done! My subject is art, mainly, but I'm interested in sex.... isn't everybody? I'd be happy to help out! Amandajm (talk) 09:48, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Alright, I'm joining this movement. Haha. I'll be going topull out my twangers and bounce my balls in this project. Good notion!-- Tdxiang 09:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
This user dislikes the
Wikiproject Sex and Sexuality
as s/he feels that too many damn references is
Aaargh! Stop it! Too many innuendos! Overload! mc8 18:43, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Your age UBX

Your 'age' userbox doesn't seem to be working here. Any suggestions? Microchip 19:35, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Maybe it's a problem with this template? There are quite | a | few | variables | in the userbox. --Gwib -(talk)- 19:42, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Gwib!

What a nice polite, mature human being you are! Amandajm (talk) 11:06, 30 August 2008 (UTC)


YouHe keep(s) using that word. I do not think it means what you he think(s) it means.

—Inigo Montoya

-- Creol(talk) 12:32, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Haha! Well,
You He seem(s) a decent fellow. I hate to kill you ban him.

—Inigo Montoya

Yes, you're very smart. Shut up.


-- That was a great group-movie, IMO. BTW, who's retiring? — AE (talk) 19:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
I did but I came back today. Static -=Electrify My Thoughts=- 19:30, Saturday August 30 2008 (UTC) :P
Actually it was Da Punk. 8th retirement was today. (+2 semi's and a RtV). -- Creol(talk) 19:56, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Maybe the 9th will bring outraged Wikimedia board members over to complain about us! --Gwib -(talk)- 20:50, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
But I returned from my 2nd retirement today. Should I go for a third? StaticFalcon  Give me a SHOUT!  20:51, Saturday August 30 2008 (UTC)
StaticFalcon, you recently came back from retirement. You seem to be only retiring because 1 or 2 users tell you that you did something wrong... we all make mistakes, but retiring after every single little one when someone tells you did something wrong or your not doing something well is just confusing. Your first retirement was because of 2 or 3 users coming to your talk page, kindly asking that you to ask for permission before you put something in their userspace, then you said that your useless or something similar (not true, your not useless) and retired. Your second retirement was only because two users opposed your RfA. Nothing to retire over. Now your retiring for pretty much no reason at all? Retirement means that you leave Wikipedia for good, but you come back multiple times. And when you retire, you usually get messages like "don't go" and stuff like that, which is why you come back from what I've seen. StaticFalcon, I know your young (11 years old?), but you seem to retire over little criticism. If someone tells you you did a mistake, just improve yourself on it and never do it again, and you can surely become a good editor. :) Just listen to the advice people tell you. Retiring won't do anything to help you improve, but listening to the advice people tell you and improving yourself based on them will. You want to become a good editor, right? Well, just keep trying, and don't leave us again. I'm pretty sure we all appreciate the work you've done for Simple Wikipedia so far, but all you have to do is just improve on yourself from what you have done wrong, and you'll do great. :) -- RyanCross (talk) 21:09, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
SO does that mean I am a loser because I'm young? Plus I have Asburgers Syndrome which is a mental disorder that makes me really sensative. Static  Blah!  21:23, Saturday August 30 2008 (UTC)
I never said that. I don't really care much about age, I just mentioned it. Anyway, you are a pretty good user, the key is just improving from your mistakes. ;) -- RyanCross (talk) 21:34, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
FINE but can you like help me write articles? I need to edit in the mainspace more and I can't do it alone. sorry if that sounds bad but i really need help Static  Electrify My Thoughts  21:37, Saturday August 30 2008 (UTC)
Eh, I would, but I'm just too busy these days, especially on weekdays, so I won't be able to help. Maybe asking your adopter, User:Sebb, might help. I can always contact him to mentor you again. -- RyanCross (talk) 21:42, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Sebb hasn't been active in a while and he didn't help me a lot. I need a expirianced editor with a lot of mainspace edits. Falcon  Shock me!  21:44, Saturday August 30 2008 (UTC)

(undent)I would be willing to help you out/adopt you. Leave me a message if you would me to. Kennedy (talk) 22:26, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Gwib. You have new messages at No one's page's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.


I wasn't sure what to put for this headline without sounding dirty. I have done (cough) fellatio and semen for the wikiproject, if you could take a look over them sometime I would appreaciate it. Cheers. FSM Noodly? 16:39, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Well Truth'southere epanded semen a lot too, to give him credit. FSM Noodly? 16:41, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Don't be worried about sounding dirty, SEX is a beautiful thing! I'll take a look over the articles about fellatio and sperm that you wrote about! Truth did the SEMEN article though. --Gwib -(talk)- 16:43, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Oh yeah thanks, I forgot I wrote sperm and not semen. Cheers. FSM Noodly? 17:19, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


Thanks.Afil (talk) 20:05, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Deleted Edits

Could you give me a rough estimate of how many QDs I've done? Thanks.

Oh, and I am deeply ashamed of you. Why is this article a year and not a redirect to something that makes more interesting reading? mc8 16:17, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

According to these, you've got about 187, give or take 10. But if you want some really, interesting reading, go here ;) --Gwib -(talk)- 16:29, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I reckon the "listen to yourself snoring when you try to get to sleep" one is the best... it would give me nightmares, probably. Thanks for the edits. Microchip 16:36, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


Did the autosave work on the sandbox reset? I meant to try it but had to go answer some timestamp question and you got to it before I did. -- Creol(talk) 15:18, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

No such luck. And who would be inconsiderate enough to ask questions about timestamps when there are important sandbox-related issues needing to be fixed! Honestly. --Gwib -(talk)- 15:23, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Also, lol. A bit better than my test. --Gwib -(talk)- 15:30, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I tried the computer trick, being nice and even insulting Creol.. It seems to save fine for me. -- Creol(talk) 15:38, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
For me, nothing. Maybe I should stick to lifting X-Wings out of the mud. Sandboxes are just too much for me atm. --Gwib -(talk)- 15:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Found the problem. Its your superior browser :) IE autosaves, Firefox doesn't. -- Creol(talk) 15:42, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

WHAT, NO WAY YOU LIE. Honestly, I'm getting nothing but trouble with this bloody explorer. --Gwib -(talk)- 15:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
You should try the new Google Chrome. I likes it! Kennedy (talk) 15:46, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
And now it works fine for me in from both links with both browsers.. this is entertaining.. -- Creol(talk) 16:00, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Will download Google Chrome, but usually change confuses me, so we'll see what happens. Off to check the box with Firefox. --Gwib -(talk)- 16:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

This is just weird. I used the code from the revert link in popups (popups-API actually) to get the autosave. IE had one code, Firefox had a slightly different one. Then all of a sudden, the Firefox code on popups changed back to the IE code and the world is good again. Seems to be working fine with the original change. -- Creol(talk) 16:16, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


Hello! I was wondering if you had any comments for my review? :) Kennedy (talk) 15:35, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. Much appreciated. :) Kennedy (talk) 08:12, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Babel Template

Do you remember deleting the template I created, Template:User es-0.1? I'm sorry, I ought to have created it under a user sub-page, not at the template namespace. Sorry for creating the template there. It was meant as a test anyway. Minor or Prime 10:40, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

My Wiki project

I see your wiki project looks very snazzy... mine is terrible! You couldn't redesign it for me could you? Please, please, please! There might be a barnstar in it as well.... FSM Noodly? 16:45, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Mess around with the colours, and I can't get rid of the white border around the banner. Feel free to change it! --Gwib -(talk)- 17:28, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Captain Obvious points out that the white border around the banner is actually a white border on the banner. Kind of hard to remove that with coding. I have to wonder how much time you wasted trying to fix that one. -- Creol(talk) 18:19, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Kaptain Kills-Myself kills Gwib, after he valiantly spent 15 minutes fixing a border which wasn't there. Kaptain (Kills-Myself)
Yey looks much better! Cheers, FSM Noodly? 19:28, 7 September 2008 (UTC) (PS I will sort out a barnstar eventually!)

WP:PVGA - Baseball uniform

Look here. Thanks! -- RyanCross (talk) 18:02, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


You should have one. :-) -- Ryan†Test (talk) 07:42, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Nope. Odd. --Gwib -(talk)- 07:45, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Meh, I'll be at Facebook instead. XD -- Ryan†Test (talk) 07:48, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
:D. Write on my wall and I'll get back to you when I'm done not going to classes. This week is a "Theory of Knowledge" week, and the teacher was silly enough to say "you have very flexible timetables this week!" so none of us are going to school. --Gwib -(talk)- 08:09, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Heh, you do IB too? What fun! Giggy (talk) 11:57, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
How about now? :P -- -- RyanPublic (talk) 05:35, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
No such luck. I wonder what's wrong. I'm changing my e-mail in the prefs. --Gwib -(talk)- 05:40, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
I meant if we could chat... -- -- RyanPublic (talk) 05:42, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Personal attacks?

WTF?!? How the FUCK have I made "personal attacks"? I have done no such thing. A simply (no pun intended) outrageous accusation. (talk) 08:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Master Of Puppets (album)

I think it needs Semi. Sebb Talk 20:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Nah, protection should be used under constant vandalism. One case every two or 3 days isn't enough. --Gwib -(talk)- 05:39, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


Hello Gwib,

RAID did not make it, I still wonder what you meant by tohse phrases that sound like they were German. Could you do a copyedit, please, when you find the time? - Thanks. --Eptalon (talk) 10:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I'd be happy too. It's just bits like "Such systems can be used to store collections of music or movies, for example", should be changed to "Such systems can be used to store either collections of music or movies". Some number patterns can be altered and I'll try adding bits from FRWP to the mix. We'll get that VGA stamp next time! --Gwib -(talk)- 10:59, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


Thank you for experimenting with the page User:Microchip08/Home on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it is now gone. Please use the sandbox if you want to do any more test edits, and see the welcome page if you want to learn about helping Simple English Wikipedia. Thanks. Microchip  talk</font></span> 11:39, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Haha! --Gwib -(talk)- 11:54, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Nelson Mandela is not a terrorist for NPOV?

Hi administrator Gwib,
thank you for participating in editing the simple english wikipedia!
I noticed that you have removed my following edit:

"(...) Another example of a well-known terrorist is Nelson Mandela which later became the South-Africa president.(...)"

in the terrorism simple english article with this revision that took place today, saturday 13th September 2008 at 9:21 GMT+1.
You motivated your revision with:

"(rv NPOV info)".

Please notice that in the english wikipedia article on terrorism at the "Pejorative use" section you will find this written:

"(...) There is the famous statement: 'One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.' But that is grossly misleading. It assesses the validity of the cause when terrorism is an act. One can have a perfectly beautiful cause and yet if one commits terrorist acts, it is terrorism regardless."[28] Some groups, when involved in a "liberation" struggle, have been called terrorists by the Western governments or media. Later, these same persons, as leaders of the liberated nations, are called statesmen by similar organizations. Two examples of this phenomenon are the Nobel Peace Prize laureates Menachem Begin and Nelson Mandela.[29][30][31][32][33][34][35] (...)

So Nelson Mandela was mentioned by the media as being a "terrorist" till 1990.
Maybe we should think about putting the word "terrorist" between inverted commas then, or not?
Please continue this conversation in the "terrorism" article talk page.
Maurice Carbonaro (talk) 16:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I reverted your contribution because of one key factor. It was not sourced. If you'll check out the quote above which you took from the ENWP article, you'll see "[29][30][31][32][33][34][35]". These all link to various websites and books confirming the information. If you want to include Nelson Mandela as a terrorist, please source appropriately based on WP:SOURCE.
Basically, I assumed that since it was not sourced, that it was your point of view (POV) and this isn't allowed per WP:POV. Sourcing appropriately cancels out this assumption.
Thanks for the message. --Gwib -(talk)- 16:56, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

TUSC token 5ebd0a9ec5bd9386c41ded477daa54d6

I am now proud owner of a TUSC account!

Phineas and Ferb

dude i wasn't testing, that was a total simple page that even my dog can read. EntertainU (talk) 15:38, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

You have a really clever dog. --Gwib -(talk)- 15:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


Heya Gwib, I'm just wondering, since you were on the "people-with-an-awesome-sig-that-can-help-awesome-ify-your-sig" page, can you help me with a little problem? I copied and changed your code for your colour-changing sig, and did three parts to link to each of my pages that may (or may not) want to be seen by the public, also hoping that each would change individually, but they always end up being the same colour. Is there anything in the code I can change so that they can all be different colours randomly? This isn't an issue of any particular importance, so take your time with it, but thanks a lot for the code and any help you give --·.·´¯`·->Kia</small></sup></font><b>mno</small></sup><b>mch</small></sup><-·´¯`·.·-- 19:06, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

18px Done - I helped with Gwib's so knew how it worked. It's not "random" but they will always be different from each other. (eg: ·.·´¯`·-><b>Kia</small></sup><b>mno</small></sup><b>mch</small></sup><-·´¯`·.·--). Hope that helps - tholly --Talk-- 21:10, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
That's weird, I didn't get a "NEW MESSAGES" bar until you'd replied here. Anyway, thanks for clearing this up, tholly! --<b>Gwib</b> -(talk)- 21:11, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Well, thanks a lot for that, saved me a lot of work! --·.·´¯`·-><b>Kia</small></sup><b>mno</small></sup><b>mch</small></sup><-·´¯`·.·-- 15:13, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
There's a page for that? (talk) 17:38, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


Hello Gwib,

we all devote the time we see fit to this wikipedia; if unforeseen things happen, and the plan changes this is not too grave. --Eptalon (talk) 19:40, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


YO!EntertainU (talk) 17:35, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

RyanCross' RfA thanks

100px Hello. I thank you for your support in my request for adminship. It was closed as successful. I am honored and thankful for the trust you have in me and for the new position you have helped place me in as an administrator. I will do my very best as an administrator for Simple English Wikipedia, and I promise I'll do all I can to the best of my abilities. If you need any help at all or if you need my assistance, feel free to drop a message on my talk page. I'll see if I can be of help. Again, thank you. I appreciate it very much.
Yours truly, RyanCross (talk) 08:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

And a special thanks for nominating me. :-) -- RyanCross (talk) 08:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


Thank you for the invite. Realist2 (talk) 17:02, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Personal Information


Please explain why you reverted my edit to Sebb's talk page? I won't revert you, but I need a reason not to. --<b>Gwib</b> -(talk)- 17:59, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

There is some information that I don't want shown alongside my name in a search for it. Then, the admin who was doing that may find out and I don't want that to happen. Wikipedia pages have no "owners", and I shouldn't have to "take it up with [Sebb]" because I don't want search engines to access it. It's like making a comment on a user talk page, then changing it, then someone reverts your change, telling you to discuss with the user. It doesn't make sense, and it's not practical, because of what's been going on with this admin. I'm tempted to reveal the username of this admin, but I'm reluctant, because it's gotten me in trouble before. But please, hide the comment. — Jonas Rand · (talk) 18:00, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm willing to delete the talk page and restore without your edit. Then you can re-write the comment without anything you deem unnecessary. However, I won't allow hiding comments just because you're nervous of repercussions. Basically, think before you write. It's up to you as to how you want to re-word the message, but hiding something because you don't want another user to see it in an internet trawl is immature. --<b>Gwib</b> -(talk)- 18:05, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't want the edit to be hidden from people, I want it to be hidden from search engines. I also do not see what is puerile, immature, or petulant about wanting to protect your privacy. It's not just Michael, it's all harassment that I want to prevent when using a search engine. Oversighting, selective restoration, and other forms of non-transparent forms of hiding information from search engines will make an edit completely erased from the history. Adding a simple notice that the info is hidden will encourage some who are reading it to see, and they can see. But they can't see using, say, Clusty to search "Jonas Rand" It's not immature, and I don't see why it shouldn't be allowed. — Jonas Rand · (talk) 18:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm reverting you unless you really give a good reason, Ionas. You're hiding a comment so that some will see it (i.e. those whom are concerned in the comment), and so that others who are concerned will not know about it's existence. It's not only immature, it's cowardly and pointless. I'm offering to delete the page, but again I won't allow a cowardly, useless comment meant only to bring down reputations. If you want a discussion hidden from google, use e-mails. But don't post a hidden comment so that those you're bitching about don't know it's going on. --<b>Gwib</b> -(talk)- 18:22, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Whatever, do what you want. I've been called out of my name, "immature", "cowardly", and said to have been "bitching". I give up now. — Jonas Rand · (talk) 18:25, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
I haven't called you immature or cowardly. Just your actions/situation. Now, do you want the entire comment exposed to the merciless google or do you want to whittle it down? --<b>Gwib</b> -(talk)- 18:26, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't care now. Michael's going to harass me anyway, so I'll just revert myself back to the exposed version. — Jonas Rand · (talk) 18:28, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

(unindenting)Well, you quote him as "searching for [your] real name", so him picking up this issue is just going to justify his searching of you. If he's clever, he won't comment, let alone harass. If he isn't, or if he has a vendetta against you, then he'll intervene. Until then, lets assume the former. --<b>Gwib</b> -(talk)- 18:34, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Rock music

I'd like to invite you to join the newly-formed Rock music WikiProject. There's alot of Rock-related articles on Wikipedia that could use a little attention, and I hope this project can help organize an effort to improve them. So please, take a look and if you like what you see, help us get this project off the ground and a few Rock music pages into the front ranks of Wikipedia articles. Thanks! --Fell on Black Days (talk) 19:43, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Range blocks

Hey there. Earlier, I performed a range block, but I wasn't sure if I did it properly. Do you mind checking to see if I did it right? New administrators usually have questions. :) Thanks, RyanCross (talk) 05:27, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Looks good! 3 months seems to be a tad long, but it depends on what's in the "long history of vandalism" you've put in the reason. Try to check that there's no collateral damage, but I don't think I've seen any active contributors from that range. --<b>Gwib</b> -(talk)- 05:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Looking at this, there's multiple severe vandalism edits a few times every few months. I think 3 months is good enough for now. All I see is nothing but vandalism by some checks through the contributions. I don't see any constructive edits, so the block would mostly be benefiting us. Thanks for your help! -- RyanCross (talk) 05:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
There ain't nothin' there, boy. You've got the wrong contribution list. --<b>Gwib</b> -(talk)- 05:39, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Looks fine to me. I'm showing you the contributions of that range, right (or something)? -- RyanCross (talk) 05:41, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

No changes were found matching these criteria. --<b>Gwib</b> -(talk)- 05:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

For me it shows a long list of edits from different IP addresses. Strange. Well, as long as the block was issued, I'm fine. -- RyanCross (talk) 05:45, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Shutting down half of a school district for three months for the actions of two smallers IP ranges (32-38 and 97-111) is a tad overkill. As one of the two ranges has not edited in about a year, you are only talking about one small IP range in need of attention ( 16 IPs instead of 256. Limited IP block and a modified {{SchoolIP}} tag to alert others who come across it later. (see the Reseach Machines UK header on User talk: for an idea about small range school IP warnings) -- <b>Creol(talk) 05:57, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm not experienced with range blocks, so I guess it would have been best to leave it to someone else. Thanks Creol. Feel free to revert/correct my block(s)! -- RyanCross (talk) 06:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not experienced in the field of ranges whatsoever. I was the one who recommended to block that range, but I didn't check if it was a school range. Thanks, Creol.

Gwib, it appears that you don't have the CIDR range gadget turned on in your preferences, or you didn't wait for the little sun image to appear along with the list of contribs. — Jonas Rand · (talk) 06:14, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Ionas: I'd checked it ages ago, still doesn't work. Possibly should use a different browser...
Creol: Curious, how do you get information for a range block? I rely on my (imperfect) memory, but would I need checkuser status to do otherwise? --Gwib -(talk)- 18:11, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
For a range block or about a range block? "For" is easy, you get one of them non-superior browsers and a non-artsy-fartsy computer, click the button and use your maths on the results. YOu could use range calculators if your maths are questionable or you are lazy. The block screen itself points to a range calculator (that little link in the upper right that says "range calculator"). There is a tool on the toolserver for the "About" or you could just Ctrl+F (or whatever keys your fruity box uses) and search the last 1000 or so blocks for the first part of the ip range. Annoyingly if you actually use the logs search function, it wont show the block as the range (/x) confuses it. Checkuser will tell what rangeblock is responsible for a specific IP being blocked on certain checks (CU does different things, only certain ones pass back block information)
I used logs search, got nothing so that explains quite a lot. Thanks for the link, although it took me a few tries on different IP addresses to work it out.
I'll just wait for my computer to make me a cup of tea and a biscuit, whilst it sings a short song and massages my buttocks, before making any more edits. Arty-farsty, pfft. Only the necessities. Ta ta. --Gwib -(talk)- 15:33, 25 September 2008 (UTC)


hey. sorry to talk to you on wiki, delete this if you want to. check your inbox though.Hayley talk 16:35, 25 September 2008 (UTC)


  1. Quits with the deleting of stuff I'm deleting. I don't like that "We're sorry, you are too slow" screen it gives me.
  2. It had content.. wasn't close to notable but it did say a bunch of stuff. Just nothing anyone realy wanted to read.

hmmph-- Creol(talk) 18:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Skills, I got 'em

The one and only

Rollback failed!! You win this round, but you won't win the war! Damn poetic justice. --Gwib -(talk)- 18:31, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Stop it, or I will be forced to apply for rollback and beat both of you. Microchip  talk</font></span> 19:18, 25 September 2008 (UTC)